Whatever Became of Jesus Christ? The Biblical Case for the Second Coming as Accomplished Fact — Part One – The Second Coming of Jesus Christ

Part One – The Second Coming of Jesus Christ

Chapter One

Most everyone, even those who take little interest in spiritual things, has heard of the Second Coming.  In our time it has not been uncommon to hear newscasters report of some new cult sequestering itself from society in anticipation of the last days, Armageddon and all – its leader a self-professed reincarnation of Jesus Christ Himself.  Or, in a more orthodox vein, some well-intentioned group with no members pretending to be deity will arise proclaiming urgently that Jesus Christ is on the verge of appearing from the sky in the flesh.  And there are all sorts of variations on this theme – some sinister and despicable, some well-meaning, and some impossible to tell.

Some of these groups end with a bang and some with a whimper.  Some actually go on indefinitely, boldly forecasting new dates for the Second Coming as if they didn’t realize that the passing of the old dates had already discredited them.  When natural disasters and world tensions are on the increase, speculation about the Second Coming appears beyond the bounds of these types of groups we have mentioned.  Even more people begin to ask, “Are these the last days?”  “Is this the time that the Second Coming of Christ is about to occur?”

And so, the knowledge most people have about the Second Coming of Jesus Christ is a knowledge of hopes – raised and dashed.  Repeatedly.  For the one thing that all these forecasts, speculations, prophecies, and prognostications have in common is that they have failed to produce a Second Coming that matches what was promised.  And so for many people, the hope for the Second Coming has become like the hope of many Jews for their Messiah: a hope not completely abandoned, yet a hope long overdue for fulfillment.  The surrounding world cannot be blamed if it is confused by all this.

The New Testament Record

It is widely acknowledged that the writers of the New Testament expected the Second Coming in their lifetime.  What are we to think about this?  Are we to conclude that as fine a moral specimens as were Peter, Paul, John, and the others (not to mention Jesus Himself) that still they must fall into the same category as those groups we’ve mentioned who raised hopes they could not fulfill?  Hardly!  On the other hand, are we believe Jesus and His apostles were mistaken about the Second Coming but trust them about everything else?  That’s not reasonable either!  The good news is that all that they promised did  come to pass.  They did not raise hopes that could not be fulfilled.  We can trust them fully and completely.

Part Two of this book will examine carefully just what Jesus and the apostles said about the timetable for the Second Coming.  For now we simply acknowledge that a straightforward reading of Matthew through Revelation will leave a reader unable to deny that these people had a great expectation; that they believed they were on the verge of that cataclysmic coming of the Lord that would climax in the last days of the old age they were living in and usher in the glorious new age.  It is my contention in this book that Jesus and His apostles were absolutely right in everything that they said.

Why So Much Confusion?

There is no good reason for there to be confusion on the issue of the Second Coming.  If we read the words of Jesus and the apostles in their context we will see that their words all fit together, giving a clear and consistent teaching on the subject.

There is no lack of written material in our day on the subject of Jesus’ return.  Bookshelves are full.  Bible reference works would be considered incomplete if they did not include articles on the subject.  And there are a variety of headings and sub-headings: such as, Parousia (from the Greek word for “coming”), Eschatology (study of last things), Judgment (as in final, last, or the day of), the Kingdom of God, Resurrection, and others as well.

Therefore, what confusion there is about the Second Coming is not for lack of explanations.  In fact, the many explanations have only created confusion.  To someone who has been exposed to the literature, it will seem that there are as many positions on the subject as there are denominations in Christianity.  But there is no one-to-one correspondence either, for even within a single denomination, a variety of theological interpretations may be found.

Of all these positions that hold the Second Coming as yet future instead of accomplished fact, none has emerged as the true answer acceptable to the majority of Christians.  The only thing that prevails is disagreement.  Why?  Because all these positions begin with the unquestioned and unspoken assumption that the Second Coming is an event which could not be missed.  In other words, they assume that there is no way possible that it could have already occurred.

Could the Second Coming Be Missed?

How, you ask, could the Second Coming possibly be missed?  Well, was not the first coming of Christ  missed by some people?  (Recall that “Christ” and “Messiah” are synonymous terms, from Greek and Hebrew respectively.)  And don’t the people who missed Him offer as a reason that the coming of Messiah could not be missed?

Take a moment and let it sink in that the Jews did not recognize their Messiah for who He was when He came to them.  His coming had been promised and prophesied for years – even centuries – by Israel’s prophets, and recorded in the Scriptures.  Nonetheless, the synagogues, as a general rule, refused to see Jesus of Nazareth as the Messiah.  They missed His coming.  This, therefore, is how you can miss a coming of the Lord: assume He couldn’t possibly come without your knowing about it.

If the first coming of Messiah could be missed, who’s to say that His second coming couldn’t also be missed?  At the very least, we ought to abandon arrogance and humble ourselves to the possibility that the Lord Himself could be in our midst without our being aware of it.

How a Coming of the Lord Is “Missed”

In Matthew 17, after realizing that Jesus was the Messiah, but being urged to secrecy on the subject until after His resurrection, the disciples asked Him about Elijah.  The scribes taught that Elijah would precede the Messiah based on the prophecy of Malachi.  Since Jesus was the Messiah, the disciples asked, what were they to make of this teaching?  Jesus’ answer was that John the Baptist, as the forerunner of Messiah, had been the fulfillment of Malachi’s prophecy.  That is, it was not a literal, physical return of Elijah himself but someone in his spirit of boldness calling the authorities, as well as the common people, to repentance.

Indeed there was much about John the Baptist that would bring Elijah to mind, even to the evil wife of Herod who incited him against the prophet just as Jezebel had incited her husband King Ahab against Elijah so many years before.  As the writer of Ecclesiastes told us, there is nothing new under the sun.  Jesus went on to explain that just as the Israel’s leaders had not recognized John the Baptist as Elijah, neither would they recognize Jesus of Nazareth as the Messiah.  These leaders were missing the fulfillment of prophecy.

Jesus the Messiah could be tried and crucified precisely because the Jewish authorities were sure He was not their Messiah.  Even to this day, Jews who still hope for the Messiah reject Jesus on the basis that Messiah’s coming would produce such effects (such as visible, universal peace) as could not be missed.  Since they do not see these effects, Messiah could not possibly have already come.  Ipso facto, in their minds, Jesus is not the Messiah.

From a Christian’s point of view, these Jews have closed their minds to the possibility of seeing Jesus as He truly is because they have made the unwarranted assumption that their Messiah’s coming could not be missed.  (Note that we are using the term “missed” in the sense of “unrecognized,” not in the sense of “unexperienced.”)  Do not some Christians make the same mind-closing assumption about the Second Coming that some of their Jewish brothers made about His first coming?  And, in fact, isn’t our error as Christians worse, since we can see it in our brothers but do not notice when we are doing the same thing ourselves?  Therefore, since we as Christians see how Christ’s first coming could be missed, shouldn’t we be very quick to acknowledge that his second coming could also be missed?  Yes, for only pride could keep us insisting that Christ’s Second Coming could not be missed.

Now back to the idea of “missed” meaning “unrecognized” and not “unexperienced.”  We would not say that Israel did not experience her Messiah, for all Israel experienced Him though not all recognized Him.  The same is true for the Second Coming.  No one in the world could have failed to experience the Second Coming, for it was a worldwide event.  But the world could have failed to recognize it as such.  By the way, have you ever wondered why throughout Bible times polytheism, including animal sacrifice, was the rule and yet today monotheism is the prevalent worldview, with most people getting nervous when someone wants to sacrifice animals?  Is it possible that some cataclysmic event occurred in the unseen realm, having among its many results, that what the Greeks took seriously even school children today now know is mythology?

Could the Second Coming Be a Spiritual Event?

Obviously, we are speaking of the Second Coming as a spiritual rather than a physical or fleshly event.  Is this such a strange idea?  If it seems strange to anyone it should not seem strange to Christians.  Christians proclaim a resurrection hardly any of them claim to have seen physically.  If we can accept the resurrection by faith, why not the Second Coming?

Is there something unimportant about a spiritual event?  Would it carry more weight with us if it were physical or fleshly?  If so, what does that say about us?  Certainly the resurrection “spiritualized” the first coming in a way some were not expecting.  That is, Jesus ascended from a physical place to a spiritual place.  The disciples had thought they were going to follow Messiah in earthly victory, vanquishing the Romans.  But the resurrection meant they were to follow Him in spiritual victory through fleshly suffering, vanquishing the unseen forces of their own jealousy, strife, and pride.  If to “spiritualize” something means to make it of no practical effect, then such spiritualizing is wrong.  If, however, we take as spiritual something that is spiritual and apply it in our lives, have we not honored Him who taught us that spiritual things are more important than physical things?  (See Luke 16:15.)

Spiritual things are not only more important than physical things, they are more enduring.  “For the things which are seen are temporary, but the things which are not seen are forever.”  (See 2 Corinthians 4:18.)  The very reason that the Second Coming of Jesus Christ is an event to last for eternity, never needing to be changed, altered, or improved upon, installing forever the reign of Jesus Christ as King of Kings and Lord of Lords, is precisely because it is not an event of the flesh but rather of the spirit.  That is, it was unseen and eternal.  In other words, if God wanted something to last forever and be the foundation of all eternity, wouldn’t He choose to do something spiritual rather than something physical?  How much did Moses’ tabernacle or Solomon’s temple keep the people from going astray?  We see that, great as they were, they had little lasting effect.

How would the faith in the invisible God that Jesus was working so hard to inculcate in His followers be helped by a physical Second Coming?  If He were to come again in the fleshly display which so many seek, faith would not be necessary to greet Him and yet He asks,

“…when the Son of Man comes, will He find faith on the earth?”  Luke 18:8 NASB

Jesus thus indicated the necessity to have faith in the Second Coming.

People who believe God is invisible and that Jesus is the Son of God should not find it so strange if Jesus should return as God, that is, invisibly.  Since Jesus is who He is, isn’t it fitting that He should come the first time as man and the second time as God; the first time in the flesh and the second time in the spirit (2 Corinthians 5:16); the first time for sin and the second time for salvation (Hebrews 9:28); the first time in suffering and the second time in glory (Luke 24:26)?  Should we be disappointed that we do not see Him physically when He told the apostle Thomas,

 “Blessed are they who did not see, and yet believed.”  John 20:29 NASB

Making the Case

But we may be getting ahead of ourselves.  The case has only begun to be made that Jesus Christ has already come again.  The overwhelming evidence comes in the next two parts of the book as we examine in detail the statements of Jesus and His apostles on the subject.  The next part of this book will look at everything they said about “when” the Second Coming could be expected.  Nothing they said would let us date it anytime past the 1st Century A.D.  To say then that it has not occurred some 1,900 years later is to say that we know more about the Second Coming than they did!

The last part of the book will look at what Jesus and His apostles said about “what” the Second Coming would be like.  We will see that to regard their descriptions as referring to a physical event leads to all sorts of contradictions and inconsistencies – the very situation we find in the multiplied opinions about what the “future, physical” Second Coming will be like.  If, however, we take their descriptions as referring to a spiritual event we will find that they harmonize to present a clear, consistent, and undeniably magnificent portrait of our Savior’s enthronement and His eternal reign.

At this point, therefore, it is only necessary for you to maintain an open mind.  For in the acceptance or rejection of any Bible teaching, one must engage his or her conscience.  We must ask ourselves, “Am I willing to stand before God and say this is what I truly believe?”  If we believe the crowd is right, we should stand with the crowd; but if we believe the crowd is wrong, then we must stand alone.  It is that sort of honesty before God that tends to break up crowds.

End of Chapter One

End of Part One

Part Two – The Timing of the Second Coming

(Return to Preface and Table of Contents)

14 Replies to “Whatever Became of Jesus Christ? The Biblical Case for the Second Coming as Accomplished Fact — Part One – The Second Coming of Jesus Christ”

  1. Hi Mike,

    First, and foremost, the error begins with utilizing unscriptural words to build upon.

    I do not believe that the saints of God recognize how serious an issue this is. When we are without light from God on certain subjects, we may turn to others for our enlightenment and become submerged in reasonings beyond what the Scriptures make allowance for.

    The usage of unscriptural words and terms, words like second coming, trinity, godhead, and many others, do not have the inspiration of Holy Spirit behind them.

    Hb 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

    This passage concerns Israel. It is not about us, the Body of Christ. The context is the Priesthood of Christ and its parallels in the flesh. There has only been one priesthood that is out of God besides Melchizedek, and Israel and the Jews are its only lawful dispensers. There is only One mediator for the nations, He is Jewish, and He will come again as the High Priest over Israel.The priesthood was and will once again be out of Israel, for the healing of the nations, during the Millennial reign of Christ.

    And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God…And had a wall great and high, [and] had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are [the names] of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel….And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it…. And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb [is] the light thereof…. And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it….In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, [was there] the tree of life, which bare twelve [manner of] fruits, [and] yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree [were] for the healing of the nations.

    There is no mention of us, the Body of Christ, anywhere in The Unveiling of Jesus Christ. The places where the Gentiles are mentioned, it concerns their judgments during the Lord’s Day, or subjection and subservience to the Jewish prerogatives that God has mandated for the ages (Ro 9:4) . The nations during that time are outside the Holy City Jerusalem (as well as the unbelieving Jew) and none are able to enter into that holy place if they are not of the tribes of Israel or proselytes.

    1Th 5:1-3 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
    For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
    For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

    Here is where another trouble lends itself to the majority of believers. The Body of Christ is not roused from the dead into their natural bodies, as will the dead saints of Israel.

    1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

    Re 20:6 Blessed and holy [is] he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

    Only the Hebrew and the proselyte to the faith will be raised out from among the dead in the “first resurrection”. There will be no others, for only those of the twelve tribes are qualified to be kings and priests for God. The rest of the dead remain in that state (Re 20:5)

    The premises you provide Mike, are infused with error by reason of not knowing the differences in the Lord’s ministry to His people and Paul’s commission to the nations, and the correct partitioning of the Word (2Ti 2:15) to accord with those differences. Until such time as one is able to correctly divide the word of truth, such a matter as the Lord’s parousia will remain contradictory and confusing, with little room for humility and instruction.

    We must, above all else, especially those who believe themselves to be teachers of the Word, retain a pattern of sound words and speech, according to what God has delivered through His prophets and apostles, and recorded in His Autographs.

    2Ti 1:13 Hold fast the form of sound words, which thou hast heard of me, in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus

    It is imperative to do this Mike. Even if you think an expression or word is not “anti-biblical” or “anti-scriptural, it must be rejected if does not find its counterpart in the Scriptures. “Second Coming” is not in the Scriptures. You have been led down a path of futility by seeking to justify it with this post. If He did not say it exactly, let us not be deluded into thinking He has, and thus making His word diminished and less effective towards others.

    Regards, Phil

  2. First, and foremost, the error begins with utilizing unscriptural words to build upon.

    You are giving a useful guideline, but if you apply it too rigidly you are adding a commandment that God has not given.

    Ever since the curse of Babel we have had the issue of language translation.  You and I are communicating in English and yet none of the Scriptures were written in English.  Therefore, we have to deal with translation as best we can.  What we are trying to get is the sense (that is, the meaning) of the Scriptures – we will never get the exact words because the exact words are not English words.

    I do not believe that the saints of God recognize how serious an issue this is.

    Again, I think your urging to continually go back to the Scripture is wholesome.  And if more people followed it they would not so easily be tripped up by terms like “trinity” and “godhead.”  However, let us not try to make into a commandment something that God Himself has not explicitly commanded.

    When we are without light from God on certain subjects, we may turn to others for our enlightenment and become submerged in reasonings beyond what the Scriptures make allowance for.

    You give another very good warning here.  We have no need of any human being to teach us because God Himself will teach us all things (1 John 2:27).  The best we humans can do is to continually point to Christ who will teach us all.  The second best thing we can do is to obey the commandments of God so that when we recommend them to others we are doing so unhypocritically (Matthew 5:19 contrasted with Matthew 23:2-3).

    The usage of unscriptural words and terms, words like second coming, trinity, godhead, and many others, do not have the inspiration of Holy Spirit behind them.

    I don’t think “Second Coming” deserves to be lumped with these other words.  “Trinity” is both an unscriptural word and an unscriptural concept.  “Godhead” is an antiquated English word that invites nothing but confusion.  “Second Coming,” on the other hand, is pretty close to a scriptural term, as can be seen in Hebrews 9:28 which you quote just below.

    Christ came the first time in the flesh (1 John 4:2).  The New Testament – from Matthew to Revelation – makes clear that He had another coming on the horizon (“the coming of the Son of Man,” “the coming of the Lord,” “the coming of the day of God,” and so on are explicit terms that are used).  Since the first “coming” was in the flesh it does not at all seem strange to refer to his second “coming” as…well…”Second.”

    Hb 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

    This passage concerns Israel. It is not about us, the Body of Christ. The context is the Priesthood of Christ and its parallels in the flesh. There has only been one priesthood that is out of God besides Melchizedek, and Israel and the Jews are its only lawful dispensers. There is only One mediator for the nations, He is Jewish, and He will come again as the High Priest over Israel.The priesthood was and will once again be out of Israel, for the healing of the nations, during the Millennial reign of Christ.

    Your first sentence here (“This passage concerns Israel.”) is where you go off track, Phil.  There is no distinction between Gentile and Jew when it comes to the gospel (Romans 10:12; Galatians 3:28; Colossians 3:11).  Therefore, in the several scriptures that follow you misapply them because you segregate their application, making some apply to Gentiles and others apply to Jews.  Jesus came to bring Gentiles and Jews together – not to keep them separated.  This distinction seems important to you, but it is a distinction of the flesh.    The distinction you should focus on is the one between the flesh and the spirit (Romans 8 being a primer on this subject).

    The premises you provide Mike, are infused with error by reason of not knowing the differences in the Lord’s ministry to His people and Paul’s commission to the nations, and the correct partitioning of the Word (2Ti 2:15) to accord with those differences. Until such time as one is able to correctly divide the word of truth, such a matter as the Lord’s parousia will remain contradictory and confusing, with little room for humility and instruction.

    You think the error on this point is mine; I think it is yours.  I think you have erred to make too much of the difference between Paul’s commission and that of the other apostles. I think he made it clear in 1 Corinthians 1:10-17 that any distinction among apostles was a distraction from the gospel of Christ.  Let Christ alone be exalted (Isaiah 2:11, 17), and regard anyone who proclaims Him as a bond servant without rank (2 Corinthians 4:5).  Humility is indeed the order of the day.

    We must, above all else, especially those who believe themselves to be teachers of the Word, retain a pattern of sound words and speech, according to what God has delivered through His prophets and apostles, and recorded in His Autographs.

    He alone is the Teacher.  We are simply encouraging people to enroll in His class.  He teaches righteousness, and if we love righteousness we will be sure to be attentive students.

    It is imperative to do this Mike. Even if you think an expression or word is not “anti-biblical” or “anti-scriptural, it must be rejected if does not find its counterpart in the Scriptures. “Second Coming” is not in the Scriptures.

    As I’ve said, I can find “coming” in the Scriptures and I can find “second” in the Scriptures. Therefore, I don’t think it’s going too far to use this term.  Nonetheless, I agree with you that people would understand its meaning more fully if they also used more explicit biblical terms such as “the day of the Lord.”  I try to help people with this in my writing by using such terms and explaining them.

    You have been led down a path of futility by seeking to justify it with this post. If He did not say it exactly, let us not be deluded into thinking He has, and thus making His word diminished and less effective towards others.

    This path I’m on is of His leading, and it has not led me to futility.  On the contrary, it has led me to obey Him more than I did on the previous paths I was following.  May His word be exalted above all other words!

  3. 2 Corinthians 5:16 – From now on, therefore, we regard no one according to the flesh. Even though we once regarded Christ according to the flesh, we regard him thus no longer.

    Hebrews 9:28 – so Christ, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, not to deal with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him.

    Luke 24:26 – Was it not necessary that the Christ should suffer these things and enter into his glory?”

    None of these verses are setting up a timeline for Jesus’s return.

    1. Yes and no.

      I would agree that they do not establish time frame in the sense of saying “Christ will return by such and such a time or when such and such happens.” I did not present these verses as speaking to that subject.

      On the other hand, they do speak of sequence. That is, first we know Him according to the flesh, then we know Him according to the spirit (“spirit” being alluded to in 2 Corinthians 5:16). He came first to bear our sins, and then to save us (Hebrews 9:28). He came first to suffer, and then to be glorified. Thus, the Scriptures provide a pattern by which we can comprehend the first and second coming of our Lord; one that the New Testament describes, and the other that it prophesies. This is the sense in which I employed these verses. Thus they do speak to timing, but only in the very broad sense of sequence. Other scriptures do the work of establishing the time frame, and these will be covered at the book unfolds.

      1. I also agree with you Mike.
        I know Jesus spiritualy, in his eternal form and as God, with us!
        Yes, i know he has come in glory unto me as he has unto other brothers in his holy spirit. And yes i agree he has hence come unto his own a second time…
        But i wish to also remind my self that his Throne, though seen by us who are blessed and saved has not yet impacted its salvación and light upon the many of this world withought. For this reason, though he has come unto some, the glory is not of the lord as yet, but only ours.. I hope you understand the difference between the lord of the saved and the lord of the uní-verse. Hence i touch Him not, until He ascendeth unto the Father!
        Lots of love my brother in heavenly places of pacience.r

  4. It is really funny how Jesus told Peter that Him being the Christ is what His church would be built on and Paul’s great revelation was Christ in you the hope of glory. So few can see or will ever in this life see how the two things are the same. Mike you seem to have a handle on it keep on keeping on brother. No matter what you say only those with eyes to see will know Jesus was and is the Christ of God and He has come and takes up His home in all those who are truly His. All those who put there hope in the man returning do not know Him nor have they seen Him. For truly it is finished and God has done all He intended to do.
    The good news is truly better then almost all would dare to believe. For greater is He who is in us then he who is in the world. Well any way I wont waste a lot of time except to say good stuff brother.

  5. Hi Mike..
    I must ask you to consider this…
    As Paul mentioned, there is a difference in Christ the Lord of the saved and Christ the Lord of the universe. .. The first is an eternal proof of The ressurection of Jesus among us but not the authority of God as yet on earth. In my opinion you are looking at the revelation of Jesus after his crucifixion, wich those who are His are blessed enough to receive. But though some of us have seen the Lords ressurection in this our generation it does not mean that the Lord has returned in the form of His second coming.
    The apostles of Jesus saw the Lord after his crucifixion also in their generation. What im saying Mike, is that they saw Him then, and we see Him now, yes in His eternal glory, but this is not His second coming, but only the proof of His eternal existence among the elect. It is hence that we the elect wait as we grow in body till Christ returns in His form of God all in all with authority and salvation known by the saved and the unsaved, not just by the saved.
    In the meantime we have His glory,salvation and understanding, even His Holy Spirit, until that great day when all will know God in full Judgement.
    Thank you.

  6. John,

    The apostles knew of no coming of the Lord except the one promised to their generation. I trust them and therefore look for no other coming of the Lord than that one.

    The unsaved come to know Him when they die because that’s when the veil of flesh is removed.

  7. Mike..
    I can see the Lord.. I can decern spiritual things.. I can cast out devils.. I have the power to judge the living and the dead ( not me, but the spirit of that I Am who liveth in me)
    Yes, the comforter has come to me. Yes the spirit of the lord has made His abode in me and Judgement exists in me. I am chastised and the power of Christ is eminent in all my actions, intentions and thoughts. I live and i die every day.. Sometimes im saved, sometimes i am one with the Lord in Judgement. But all these miracles are in Heaven. And though the lord is present in me, He is present in Heaven. How can i in truth claim His return?
    I agree with everything you teach Mike. That the Lord has come a second time in spiritual rather than physical form, but only to His own. On earth no flesh sees Him. He is a ghost, till the day when all flesh knoweth Him, even those that pierced Him! And it is hence that we can say that truly the Lord has returned,when all shall know Him as we (the elect) know Him, on earth as it is in Heaven.
    I thank God every day for the gift of His Holy Ghost.. But i also look forward to Heaven on Earth.. A day of a great revelation on Earth.
    I would love to hear your opinion Mike, and thank you for your replay.

  8. John,

    Heaven is now on earth through His kingdom, which operates in those who love Him. May this kingdom grow in us and in the earth…until it fills the earth.

    “Despise not the day of small things” – Zechariah 4:10

    “Light is sown like seed” – Psalm 97:11

    “though it is smaller than all the seeds, but when it is full grown, it is larger than all the garden plants” – Matthew 13:32

    Do you see now?

    1. Yes.. I can see ..
      Just wish the Garden was visible, within the reach of all humanity, within the reach of my frends and my family, and not just among us.
      Maybe im just tired.
      God bless you Mike, and thank you.

  9. “Though your beginning was insignificant, yet your end will increase greatly.” – Job 8:7

    “But you, be strong and do not lose courage, for there is reward for your work.” – 2 Chronicles 15:7

    “Therefore, my beloved brethren, be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, knowing that your toil is not in vain in the Lord.” – 1 Corinthians 15:58

    1. Yes i agree..
      The Word is a Seed that grows and feeds those who love Him.
      And those who receive The Word must needs be burried with Christ for all things to grow.

      We are burried: in baptism,
      And but in Spirit,the kingdom comes.

      No seed shall rise above the earth less it is burried first beneath the soil.
      This is the Law, this is the way for all the seeds to sprout, and this is the way to truly “follow” Christ.
      This is my abode; the house of the burried yet living saints.

      Burried deep beneath the soil i hear the voice of Our Longsuffering Lord, making every seed to grow.
      Yet it is never dark in this House everlasting,
      For The Sower is known by all!

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